Mike wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 4:57 am
This is a different case here, other people involved, and Peter and I decided to handle it in a different way.
Michael
A little lesson in neurolingistic is needed here. I'll try to play Noam Chomsky for a bit even though I know perfectly well I have nowhere near his talent in that field.
The burden of complexity
What's really at stake here is the fact some people have absolutely no knowledge of the true electrical engineering behind both legacy digital systems and modern ones. The shallow and lazy approach and very emotionally comforting one is to simply deny this level of complexity even exist.
This effectively puts the burden on the people defending correct and complete facts to minutely detail this complexity and Vic-20-Ian did go through the exercice concerning gold plating on edge connectors and his post was simply ignored.
The deniers then have the luxury to demand facts proving said complexity is more than simply imaginary as we can see here...
This effectively puts the burden on honest people who defend technical truth and accuracy to more or less give a university course in a thread of a public forum which would present said level of details and complexity in a manner deemed acceptable by the very people who deny it's existence.
It's not my job to do that and this is proof the moderators aren't doing their job. The moderators should have the responsibility to make sure scientific facts prevail and it shouldn't be the responsibility of members who may or may not have various levels of academic proficiency to defend what they know is true and to be effectively charged with the task of copying or vulgarizing the content of various scholar courses content. All this energy and effort, as we saw with Vic-20-Ian's post, at the risk of simply getting ignored.
IMHO, this is a way for the ignorant to effectively put knowledgeable people at their service and at the service of their demagogic hypersimplification of reality.
Now, MCes repeats that I was banned from a forum as an argument to defend his position. By doing that, he doesn't realize he's bringing forward that the ignorants have won but smart people noticed and the consequence, a totally unexpected one I have to admit, is that the products I make and sell have become incredibly popular. In other words, the banning backfired big time and this means there is some hope - some people do see the truth, support and defend it.
I was banned from Lemon64 because I did take the time and care to dispel a few dozens of technical myths posted on that forum by a small group of individuals. They were convinced I couldn't do it but I did and this insulted them. Once I was banned, Thomas 'Skoe' Giesel left a long post in which he supported everything I said.
To the people who manage Denial, I have to say that as long as you let shallow and intellectually lazy people bully knowledgeable people into silence, great projects are impossible here.
joshuadenmark wrote: ↑Fri Jul 03, 2020 1:36 am
Please keep the debate friendly and constructive, do you even know how tiresome this is to follow?
In behalf of our community “please behave boys”.
I'm sorry to have to say this but this type of reaction greatly favors the bully. It's incredibly easy to politely post things that are technically completely false and it is perfectly legitimate to be very offended when you spent years learning the truth in every intricate details and see yourself bulldozed down by an effective demagogue.
Mike wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 2:54 am
Now comes the crunch question: before writing your post here, did you at least
try to contact the seller and point out to him the issues with using HASL for the edge connector and choosing HC for the logic chips (backing up your complaint about both by citing appropriate sources)?
The previous 90 posts in this thread do constitute an answer to your question, I believe.
Be normal.