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Re: VIC-1905 Pac Man - For Sale **Extremely Rare**

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2016 6:16 am
by eslapion
ka20 wrote:
dragos wrote:yes, we want to compare the rom please :)
I'm certainly willing to dump the ROM from my copy. Can anyone point me to info on how to do that?
My old solution was to use a VIC-20 on which you can do hardware mods.

Using a DPDT switch you invert the BLK2 and BLK5 lines on the cartridge port.

Of course, that's something you should do only if you're used to doing electronic stuff and using a soldering iron in tight places.

Re: VIC-1905 Pac Man - For Sale **Extremely Rare**

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2016 2:38 am
by e5frog
It would be quite possible to ship hardware that allows dumping... if anyone that is interested in getting a dump has that available.

I'm thinking a cartridge in-between adapter, then direct a read of the cart to disk (perhaps with reinsert and reboot and a few dumps), which can even be done from BASIC with a few lines of code - like when saving other roms from the computer to disk.

BTW: There's no reason it should be any different from Jelly Monsters, is there?

Re: VIC-1905 Pac Man - For Sale **Extremely Rare**

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2016 5:15 am
by Mayhem
The solutions already exist, yes, there's a program or two from Mike on these very forums. A cartridge adapter with a switch to turn the lines on/off (so you boot with it off, and then turn it on when the Vic-20 is powered up) and run a dump program from BASIC to save to disk from all memory blocks.

Re: VIC-1905 Pac Man - For Sale **Extremely Rare**

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2016 11:15 am
by e5frog
Just tried to hint that all that is needed is to send an adapter to the guy that has the cart... if it's important.

Seems to me it's the label that is rare and probably not much else but you never know until you've checked. I wonder why they called it PACMAN and not PAC-MAN.

Re: VIC-1905 Pac Man - For Sale **Extremely Rare**

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2016 11:58 am
by Mayhem
Maybe because it was Puckman in Japan, and the hyphen was only added in the West? Have to say though, it's quite remarkable how the Western name is now the de facto call, even probably back inside Japan.

Re: VIC-1905 Pac Man - For Sale **Extremely Rare**

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2016 12:03 pm
by e5frog
That's right, they didn't use a hyphen in Puckman, looks like there's a small space though in some googled images.
I think Pac-Man rolls easier in the mouth than Puckman... but who knows.

So the Japanese aren't much for dumping roms? Seems in all this time someone would have made a dump.

Re: VIC-1905 Pac Man - For Sale **Extremely Rare**

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2016 2:13 pm
by TNT
e5frog wrote:I think Pac-Man rolls easier in the mouth than Puckman... but who knows.
Q&A: Pac-Man Creator Reflects on 30 Years of Dot-Eating
Wired.com: And of course, the game was originally called Puck-Man, but the name was changed for America because someone might vandalize the “P” and turn it into an “F.”

Iwatani: Yes, the U.S. subsidiary said that that would be bad. We wondered, what should we do? And decided to change it to “Pac.” Then, after the American version came out with the “Pac” spelling, we used that for the entire world.

Re: VIC-1905 Pac Man - For Sale **Extremely Rare**

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2016 2:16 pm
by e5frog
Heard that story as well, but why did it spread back where it started as Puckman is the question. ;-)