VIC-TRACKER COMPO 2005 official thread!
The raster bars scroll around a lot on Aneurysm's song. Is that due to it is multispeed or something else? It scrolls around even worse if I run VICE in NTSC mode (which I presume he composed for).
It sounds very much like a "data" tune. Some people in the C64 scene having that particular taste would approve it, methinks.
It sounds very much like a "data" tune. Some people in the C64 scene having that particular taste would approve it, methinks.
Anders Carlsson
actually - i composed it in PAL emulation
i still haven't figured out how to get my 64hdd cable system to act as drive 8
the NTSC version stutters bad on my PC
but it works fine on my VIC
well, it sounds different from emu but i figured it would
'data track' eh?
the demo track i like, tlr, is the one that plays when you start the program
Carlsson's track sounds great - i like the middle part especially
i still haven't figured out how to get my 64hdd cable system to act as drive 8
the NTSC version stutters bad on my PC
but it works fine on my VIC
well, it sounds different from emu but i figured it would
'data track' eh?
the demo track i like, tlr, is the one that plays when you start the program
Carlsson's track sounds great - i like the middle part especially
It was composed in "LEGACY" interrupt speed, which is the same as PAL on PAL-systems, but the same amount of cycles on NTSC-systems. As it was composed on an NTSC-system I set the speed on PAL to the interrupt interval you will get with "LEGACY" on an NTSC-system.carlsson wrote:The raster bars scroll around a lot on Aneurysm's song. Is that due to it is multispeed or something else? It scrolls around even worse if I run VICE in NTSC mode (which I presume he composed for).
Weird explanation, correct result...
Edit: I didn't read Aneurysms post fully. You composed it in PAL on VICE. I assumed NTSC, so the speed is slightly wrong. I'll correct that tomorrow.
The voting has ended.
The winner is Anders Carlsson with Sjamembi 8, congratulations!
Results: here.
There were just two contributions, and only a few voters, but I am pleased with the results.
Both entries are good, but Carlssons piece stands out as a brilliant composition.
The songs will ofcourse be used as demo songs for victracker.
The winner is Anders Carlsson with Sjamembi 8, congratulations!
Results: here.
There were just two contributions, and only a few voters, but I am pleased with the results.
Both entries are good, but Carlssons piece stands out as a brilliant composition.
The songs will ofcourse be used as demo songs for victracker.
I wanted to enter the competition, but I just didn't have the time
I hope I can come up with something for next year's competition.
I hope I can come up with something for next year's competition.
Bacon
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Das rubbernecken Sichtseeren keepen das cotton-pickenen Hands in die Pockets muss; relaxen und watschen die Blinkenlichten.
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Das rubbernecken Sichtseeren keepen das cotton-pickenen Hands in die Pockets muss; relaxen und watschen die Blinkenlichten.
Is this going to go annual? I apologize profusely for not including the VIC in my Winter Chip I compo but I wanted to keep things accessable...
Which leads me to a whole series of questions? Does anybody know exactly what a .SID file is? I've done a lot of hunting and came up with two types PSID & RSID. The psid is just a sidplayer file while the rsid requires real c64 emulation of all memory registers and interrupts. But nowhere did I find in plane text - a rsid file is a c64 program with a 128byte header.
But if that is the case how hard would it be to strip down winVice and convert it to a .VIC player?
I ask just because I still want to make a tracker of my own for the unexpanded vic and if we could create something like a .VIC player that would be incredible.
Which leads me to a whole series of questions? Does anybody know exactly what a .SID file is? I've done a lot of hunting and came up with two types PSID & RSID. The psid is just a sidplayer file while the rsid requires real c64 emulation of all memory registers and interrupts. But nowhere did I find in plane text - a rsid file is a c64 program with a 128byte header.
But if that is the case how hard would it be to strip down winVice and convert it to a .VIC player?
I ask just because I still want to make a tracker of my own for the unexpanded vic and if we could create something like a .VIC player that would be incredible.
Ah! Maybe I will enter one of the MOD categories. It was ages since I made a mod...
/Anders
/Anders
PRG Starter - a VICE helper / Vic Software (Boray Gammon, SD2IEC music player, Vic Disk Menu, Tribbles, Mega Omega, How Many 8K etc.)
All SID files are C64 programs with an additional header. PSID is the old type, where samples had to be converted to a non-native format, whereas RSID plays samples like the C64 would do. At least it is how I understood it. Basic compatibility also was added with RSID.
Since all files are executable programs, it means that the music player is different depending on who wrote the music - you can not convert a SID file to another format like e.g. MIDI without analysing every note being played (which is what SID2MIDI does).
To make a VIC player, you would need musics with a player, like vic-tracker, Fisichella or some custom player like mine or any of the other demo groups. Then you attach some header containing all credits, start addresses etc. The actual player tool would then be an emulator of the VIC-I sound part together with 6502 execution and perhaps VIA etc. The sound emulation in VICE is decent, but not up to top standards.
Since all files are executable programs, it means that the music player is different depending on who wrote the music - you can not convert a SID file to another format like e.g. MIDI without analysing every note being played (which is what SID2MIDI does).
To make a VIC player, you would need musics with a player, like vic-tracker, Fisichella or some custom player like mine or any of the other demo groups. Then you attach some header containing all credits, start addresses etc. The actual player tool would then be an emulator of the VIC-I sound part together with 6502 execution and perhaps VIA etc. The sound emulation in VICE is decent, but not up to top standards.
Anders Carlsson
I've posted this elsewhere, but it's probably more relevant here:
Sort of related: is there any way to interface a VIC-20 to a MIDI setup (i.e. sequencer, controller keyboard)?
I would like to use the VIC-20 with my home recording studio (controlled by an Amiga running Bars & Pipes) and sync it via MIDI Time Code with my multitrack machine.
Basically I'm interested in two things:
1. Controlling the VIC-20's voice chip via external MIDI note-on/note-off signals from a keyboard or sequencer.
2. Being able to have VIC-Tracker perform a song, and having the VIC-20 transmit time-code pointers so that my Amiga's sequencer can "slave" to it, (or have the VIC slave to the Amiga's MIDI Time Code).....so I can add parts from external synthesizers/drum machines to play along with the tracker tune.
Sort of related: is there any way to interface a VIC-20 to a MIDI setup (i.e. sequencer, controller keyboard)?
I would like to use the VIC-20 with my home recording studio (controlled by an Amiga running Bars & Pipes) and sync it via MIDI Time Code with my multitrack machine.
Basically I'm interested in two things:
1. Controlling the VIC-20's voice chip via external MIDI note-on/note-off signals from a keyboard or sequencer.
2. Being able to have VIC-Tracker perform a song, and having the VIC-20 transmit time-code pointers so that my Amiga's sequencer can "slave" to it, (or have the VIC slave to the Amiga's MIDI Time Code).....so I can add parts from external synthesizers/drum machines to play along with the tracker tune.
aneurysm, I sent you a PM about your contest...
/Anders
/Anders
PRG Starter - a VICE helper / Vic Software (Boray Gammon, SD2IEC music player, Vic Disk Menu, Tribbles, Mega Omega, How Many 8K etc.)