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Re: New Release: Telengard (for the Vic-20 +24K)

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2016 11:52 pm
by GreyGhost
Is there a cruncher for the VIC-20? I have a cruncher for the C64 and have been pleased with it for many years.
There is a cruncher for the Vic 20 published in Compute's Gazette called 'crunch' iirc. It had no bells and whistles though. There was also a 64 version that had options such as line length. There's nothing stopping you from crunching a Vic program with a C64 though. It's the same BASIC language.

Keep in mind, crunchers, compilers and compactors are all different things.

Re: New Release: Telengard (for the Vic-20 +24K)

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2016 8:36 am
by Neo-Rio
GreyGhost wrote: There is a cruncher for the Vic 20 published in Compute's Gazette called 'crunch' iirc. It had no bells and whistles though.
Found it on gazette disk 1985-08

Yes, it does a basic compact on the listing. Saves a whole 3 blocks of disk space.
Not really worth it.

Re: New Release: Telengard (for the Vic-20 +24K)

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2016 8:15 pm
by GreyGhost
3 blocks? Isn't each block 254 bytes long? That's 762 bytes more than you had. I did mention a lot of the work would have to be done by hand. I don't think a cruncher is going to combine data statements, drop the last quote on a print statement or change NEXT X,Y into NEXT:NEXT. I could be wrong on that.

It's miraculous just the way it is. A very good job. The graphics are what I miss. The memory you could save would hardly be enough for that I'm sure.

Re: New Release: Telengard (for the Vic-20 +24K)

Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2016 3:38 am
by Neo-Rio
GreyGhost wrote:3 blocks? Isn't each block 254 bytes long? That's 762 bytes more than you had.
After starting the program there was only about 100 bytes more than before.
Still, with some compression it might be possible to slip another sound effect in there... but that's about all you could squeeze in I think.

Re: New Release: Telengard (for the Vic-20 +24K)

Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2020 9:19 pm
by Dynamic_Computing
After finding this thread, I downloaded Telengard for the VIC-20 and loved it! I have now done a video review on my 10 Minute Amiga Retro Cast/ChickenHead Chronicles channel.
What a great implementation of one of my favorite games!
https://youtu.be/DIwBJ2nbIqA

Re: New Release: Telengard (for the Vic-20 +24K)

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2020 1:29 pm
by mathom
This is very cool! Thank you for the hard work, Neo-Rio! Can't wait to get deeper into it.

...mathom...