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WIP: Vicious SID Converter
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 3:33 pm
by Kananga
After having ported Aleksi Eeben's SID Emu to ca65 I decided that we need more SIDs to play than just Zoids, Upside-Down, and Cybernoid-II (Although they are great!).
So I started to write a SID converter and the first result is a small selection of SIDs converted for the Vic-20+8K.
Not all of them sound great, but do not take my word for it:
Download!
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 4:33 pm
by tokra
Uuuuuuuuh! NICE! I've always hoped for an automated converter to be available for the fantastic SID VICIOUS. Too bad this takes up most of the VIC-20 CPU-time. But still nice for splash-screen in Minigrafik maybe (Maxigrafik and FCB take up the CPU as well...).
Can't wait for the final converter!
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 6:31 pm
by Kweepa
Wow, that Aleksi fellow is a bit of a genius!
And nice work with the converter too!
(One of them crashed at the end - I think it was ik.)
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 6:44 pm
by Boray
Wow! This is impressive. In VICE anyway. This sounds way way better than any Plus/4 sid emulation I've heard.
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 7:07 pm
by Kweepa
I presume it sounds better on a real machine than in VICE...
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 7:12 pm
by Boray
I made a youtube video of Cybernoid 2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNgWU99iVIE
I hope you approve?
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 1:41 am
by orion70
Excellent job Kananga! They all play great, at least in VICE (will try them at home tonight). Splash screens with Mini/maxigrafik display and SID-like music would be another step up for our VIC
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Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 3:29 am
by Kananga
orion70 wrote:Splash screens with Mini/maxigrafik display and SID-like music would be another step up for our VIC
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Splash screen with Minigrafik is no problem and I already combined the cybernoid2 SID with one of Mike's pictures for a demo on our last C= meeting in Graz. The converter takes a prg with the SID-emulator and a SID and combines both into the runnable program. So it is easy to provide a player that is showing a picture.
I will release the converter as soon as it is resonably usable, but right now I am still working on supporting dynamically generated code for the playing routine as used in one of the ghosts'n'goblins SIDs.
Conversion is fully automated, but does not work for SIDs using custom interrupt handlers or tunes with more than 24K.
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 3:35 am
by Kananga
Nice video! Not much happening on the screen though...
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 11:34 am
by orion70
I just tried the converted tunes, and they are impressive on a real VIC
. Congratulations. Although, there's a kind of "background noise" which makes them "unpolished" in some moments, if you excuse my ignorance of technical terms (e.g., in Commando the last part is better than the beginning IMO, because the noise is less audible).
WOAH!
Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 5:04 am
by Spectrum
I don't yet tried the tunes on my real VIC, but they sounds great on the emulator too. Impressive.
How's possible?
It's possible to get such great musics on the VIC?
My my, if some of you Denial People were at work on programming at that time I think we would had such wonderful games...
...by the way, I understand that today we can use technologies that weren't available in the '80s...
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 6:43 am
by Boray
Just got a comment on the video:
"I wrote this tune when I was 15 or 16 and I can't believe I'm seeing this video on YouTube right now! (Jeroen Tel / Maniacs of Noise)"
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:37 am
by Kweepa
Hah, very cool!
EDIT: Only 166 views and he's seen it already!
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 4:43 am
by Witzo
Boray wrote:Just got a comment on the video:
"I wrote this tune when I was 15 or 16 and I can't believe I'm seeing this video on YouTube right now! (Jeroen Tel / Maniacs of Noise)"
Jeroen Tel! He was one of my favourite SID artists when I was about 17!
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 10:35 am
by Kananga
Cool! I did not know "Maniacs of Noise" is a still existing company!