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Posted: **Fri Aug 21, 2009 12:50 am**

>This small program can be used to generate the $A000 version of PA
>from the $7000, and $B000 versions:

This small proggi is a wonderful/great idea!! Very clever ...

Posted: **Fri Aug 21, 2009 8:17 am**

Looks like I don't need to bother posting my version.

Hope it's of use to some of you anyway.

Regards,
Darren

Posted: **Fri Aug 21, 2009 10:18 am**

iccuwann wrote:If anyone still wants this $A009 version (non-autostart) then let me know.

I sure do!

Mike wrote:This small program can be used to generate the $A000 version of PA from the $7000, and $B000 versions:

Who could ask for more!!!

Thanks!

Posted: **Fri Aug 21, 2009 11:34 am**

iccuwann wrote:Hi,
When I worked on the original $7000 rom, I completely disassembled it and replaced the fixed references with references which are relative to the .ORG value. This allows me to re-compile it with just about any start address.

Why autostart won't work?

Would you offer your disassembled source code so I can make a autostart version?

I'm sure you only have to add some initialization stuff at the beginning, if there is enough free space for this.

Posted: **Fri Aug 21, 2009 12:48 pm**

@iccuwann: PM sent

Posted: **Fri Aug 21, 2009 1:31 pm**

@Mike

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Posted: **Fri Aug 21, 2009 1:41 pm**

This program patches the non-autostarting $A000 version of PA to autostart after power-on or reset:

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... well, it should have, but after some testing I found the F-Keys were broken.

Seems I'll need a more thorough look into this ...

Posted: **Fri Aug 21, 2009 2:32 pm**

@Mike

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Posted: **Fri Aug 21, 2009 3:07 pm**

Here we go:

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10 SYS57809"PA-A000.PRG",8,1:POKE780,0:SYS65493
11 FORT=0TO136:READA:POKE40960+T,A:NEXT
12 SYS57809"PA-A000-AUTO.PRG",8,1:POKE193,0:POKE194,160
13 POKE780,193:POKE781,0:POKE782,176:SYS65496
14 :
15 DATA 9,160,68,160,65,48,195,194,205,32,141,253,32,82,253,32,249,253,32,24,229
16 DATA 88,32,91,228,32,164,227,32,4,228,32,128,171,160,119,185,144,170,145,55
17 DATA 136,16,248,169,62,141,143,2,169,170,141,144,2,32,1,163,169,0,141,202,2
18 DATA 162,251,154,76,116,196,44,17,145,32,52,247,32,225,255,240,3,76,86,255,32
19 DATA 82,253,32,249,253,32,24,229,169,0,141,202,2,169,62,141,143,2,169,170,141
20 DATA 144,2,108,2,192,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0

Posted: **Sat Aug 22, 2009 1:32 am**

@Mike, @iccuwann

Thank you very much, works fine for me. Very good job!!

Your changes run fine in Final Expansion section Progtools: click

sorry it is german, but pictures say mor than 1000 words.

Posted: **Fri Nov 17, 2017 10:22 pm**

Sorry for the necro post, but thank you for this patched version. This helps me out alot.

One question though. Can you put the SE rom on a normal cart if you already have a 3k expander?

Posted: **Fri Nov 17, 2017 11:36 pm**

cobracon wrote:One question though. Can you put the SE rom on a normal cart if you already have a 3k expander?

Sure. Except for the RAM, it uses the first half of BLK5, just like any other 4K cart game.

Although the Super Expander requires a memory expansion in order to be usable, it doesn't have to be 3K. It will work very well, with any other BASIC RAM area expansion, such as 8k, 16k and 24k.

Posted: **Fri Nov 17, 2017 11:57 pm**

Well currently I do have a 16k ram pack in there. Now looks like I need to find someone to burn a few roms for me.

Thanks for the info!! This site is such a wealth of information and talent.

Posted: **Sat Nov 18, 2017 4:47 am**

cobracon wrote:Can you put the SE rom on a normal cart if you already have a 3k expander?

If that +3K RAM expander is the one of CBM, that provides two places for (EP)ROMs. Actually, the Super Expander is just such a +3K RAM cartridge with an extra 4K ROM fitted, see here: Denial-WIKI: VIC-1211A inside.

A programmed 2732 can be used instead of the ROM, but you'll have to re-route some traces on the cartridge, see "Modding the 3K RAM or Super Expander cartridge". If you want to revert to a standard +3K RAM expansion without Super Expander (which reduces the available RAM slightly because of function key definitions stored at the end of BASIC RAM), just enter SYS64818 at the start-up screen.

Posted: **Sat Nov 18, 2017 11:27 am**

Mike wrote:
cobracon wrote:Can you put the SE rom on a normal cart if you already have a 3k expander?
...
A programmed 2732 can be used instead of the ROM, but you'll have to re-route some traces on the cartridge, ...

Or you can use a programmed MCM68764 which can carry 8k and, along with SUper Expander, put a machine language monitor or special version of Programmer's Aid in the top 4k and you won't have to reroute any traces at all.

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