Vic-1001

Mayhem · Post by **Mayhem** » Fri Jun 27, 2008 4:01 am

Not mine... but I know the seller, he's good...

Boxed import goodness time!

Zeela · Post by **Zeela** » Fri Jun 27, 2008 5:45 am

Nice, and he had some other good stuff for sale too...

// Z

gklinger · Post by **gklinger** » Fri Jun 27, 2008 9:37 am

I was just looking at that and trying to decide whether I should bid reasonably or put in a number that will make me feel sick to my stomach when I hit the 'pay now' button.

Hrm.

carlsson · Post by **carlsson** » Fri Jun 27, 2008 9:59 am

If only those Tomy Tutor cartridges were Sord cartridges instead.

6502dude · Post by **6502dude** » Fri Jun 27, 2008 11:58 am

gklinger wrote:I was just looking at that and trying to decide whether I should bid reasonably or put in a number that will make me feel sick to my stomach when I hit the 'pay now' button.

Hrm.

I suspect it will go for an extremely unreasonable amount of money.

It has quickly gone past what I would have paid.

gklinger · Post by **gklinger** » Fri Jun 27, 2008 1:08 pm

It's only at $46.67 as I post this. I figure it will run up to the $400-$500 range. I suppose it's worth whatever the high bidder pays (at least to that person). I don't have a practical use (above and beyond the usual) for it myself. I could say that about a lot of the stuff I own.

6502dude · Post by **6502dude** » Fri Jun 27, 2008 2:10 pm

gklinger wrote:I figure it will run up to the $400-$500 range.

This is way out of my price range and far more than I paid for my Vic-20 brand new in 1982.

eslapion · Post by **eslapion** » Fri Jun 27, 2008 11:50 pm

AFAIK, other than the keyboard with the japanese symbols, the only difference the VIC-1001 has with our beloved VIC-20 is the Character ROM.

With regards to early PET-style keyboard VICs, it uses the same power supply (same part no. ...) and has exactly the same mainboard.

Has the VIC-1001's character ROM ever been dumped?

carlsson · Post by **carlsson** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 6:38 am

Yes, see here:

http://server.zimmers.net/anonftp/pub/c ... index.html

So if you find a production resource for making new keycaps, you can make counterfeit VIC-1001:s!

ral-clan · Post by **ral-clan** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 4:28 pm

Those early Famicom cartridges really remind me of early VIC-20 cartridges. Almost the same sort of "lightning bolt" graphic art on them as Commodore used.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0241741788

6502dude · Post by **6502dude** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 4:34 pm

carlsson wrote:Yes, see here:

http://server.zimmers.net/anonftp/pub/c ... index.html

So if you find a production resource for making new keycaps, you can make counterfeit VIC-1001:s!

With custom heavy duty power supplies?

eslapion · Post by **eslapion** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 10:42 pm

carlsson wrote:Yes, see here:

http://server.zimmers.net/anonftp/pub/c ... index.html

So if you find a production resource for making new keycaps, you can make counterfeit VIC-1001:s!

I've converted my VIC-1541 with very long electronics board into a VIC-1540 by making a copy of the 1540's ROM. I also gave one to Victragic if my memory is correct.

Although making copies of the VIC-1001's keyboard is impossible, perhaps some people would be interested in trying to convert an NTSC VIC into a VIC-1001. Apparently all it takes is changing the Kernal to 901486-02 and character ROM to 901460-02.

AFAIK, the VIC-1001 is NTSC only.

eslapion · Post by **eslapion** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 10:51 pm

6502dude wrote:
carlsson wrote:Yes, see here:

http://server.zimmers.net/anonftp/pub/c ... index.html

So if you find a production resource for making new keycaps, you can make counterfeit VIC-1001:s!
With custom heavy duty power supplies?

I wan't sure for a few moments wether I should reply to this one.

Brian I have ENOUGH of your personnal attacks.

This stupid behavior has been lasting for more than a year now and it must STOP.

I have done NOTHING to you to justify this.

Enough said.

carlsson · Post by **carlsson** » Sun Jun 29, 2008 4:01 am

eslapion wrote:Although making copies of the VIC-1001's keyboard is impossible

I think it depends on your budget. Surely you should be able to find a manufacturer who can produce custom keycaps, but perhaps it costs $10000 or even $100000 in startup costs. While onto it, we could produce a set of Cyrillic keycaps too:

eslapion wrote:AFAIK, the VIC-1001 is NTSC only.

Yes, because Japan uses this video standard. While there may have been some exile Japanese in Australia, UK and other European countries, they were too few for Commodore to manufacture a computer for them.

However the NTSC and PAL kernels are so much alike eachother, that it is not a problem to implement the VIC-1001 differences in a PAL kernel too. The character set is independent of the video mode.

ral-clan · Post by **ral-clan** » Sun Jun 29, 2008 5:57 am

Is that cyrillic VIC picture real or a doctored photo? I wasn't aware that Commodore had much presence beyond what was the "iron curtain" back then. I thought they were mostly using Spectrum clones manufactured in those countries.