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Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 12:09 am
by jbuonacc
looks fantastic, hawk!!

i actually like it better than the Mega-Cart design. :shock:

very excited about a possible second run of Behr-Bonz carts!

Re: Any news on PAL version?

Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 5:55 am
by RobertBe
I wrote:At the June 24 Commodore Scene meeting in Preston, England, I gave a PAL Behr-Bonz cart to Shaun Bebbington of MicroMart newspaper.
At last night's Bunker Commodore Meeting in Bochum, Germany, I demonstrated the PAL Behr-Bonz cart to all.

Leaving Germany today,
Robert Bernardo
Fresno Commodore User Group
CommVEx v4 website - http://www.portcommodore.com/commvex

Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 9:26 am
by eslapion
hawk wrote:When I asked my wife's opinion about the replica cart label...she said that I'd captured the "Baby Poo" colour very well.
:lol: :lol: :lol:

A second run of the Behr Bonz cart is officially on the way!

Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 6:45 am
by RobertBe
eslapion wrote:A second run of the Behr Bonz cart is officially on the way!
I will mention it to my European contacts; many want that cart.

Writing from an Internet cafe
in Antwerp, Belgium.
Robert Bernardo
Fresno Commodore User Group
CommVEx v4 website - http://www.portcommodore.com/commvex

Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 10:13 am
by Mikam73
eslapion wrote:
hawk wrote:When I asked my wife's opinion about the replica cart label...she said that I'd captured the "Baby Poo" colour very well.
:lol: :lol: :lol:

A second run of the Behr Bonz cart is officially on the way!
One PAL version please :)

Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 8:09 am
by hawk
OK, I think this is the final.

Image
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Behr Bonz (PAL).pdf
Behr Bonz (NTSC).pdf

Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 10:14 am
by PaulQ
Arrr... :wink:

Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 1:01 pm
by eslapion
hawk wrote:OK, I think this is the final.
Awwwww! MAN! This is beautiful!

I will try to get it posted on the Behr Bonz's web page.

Thank you!

Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 4:21 am
by RobertBe
hawk wrote:OK, I think this is the final.
Excellent design! (but why is the C= upside-down?)

Leaving Antwerp, Belgium,
Robert Bernardo
Fresno Commodore User Group
CommVEx v4 website - http://www.portcommodore.com/commvex

Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 5:16 am
by carlsson
It is because it is no official Commodore product, and the current holder of the brand name could get upset if eslapion sells a homebrewn cartridge with their logotype.

Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 8:07 am
by hawk
It's NOT actually a 'C' for Commodore, it's a 'D', for Denial...what we're all in. :wink: I preferred the backwards 'C' to the "Chicken head" 'D' logo that was proposed, 'cause we're also all a little backwards. :lol:

Eslapion doesn't actually sell the carts complete. He just provides the circuit board. Providing the case is up to you. I chose to use a Commodore case, hence the "Commodore like" label I've made. I've just suggested that he make the file available for other to do the same.

I guess I could have gone for a totally new cart label appearance, but it wouldn't have been nearly as nostalgic, and I'm not really that creative.

And I wouldn't get too upset about Eslapion selling the carts, at the price he sells 'em for, he'd hardly be covering his costs.

As for the law...well we've all got our way of justifying what we do so we can sleep straight a night. When it comes down to it, most people who play with retro-machines are stretching the law in one way or another...it's all a matter of degree.

Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 1:40 pm
by gklinger
RobertBe wrote:(but why is the C= upside-down?)
It's not upside down; it's backwards and you would know why if you had read the Mega-Cart label threads.

Speaking of which, it's a shame that the Behr-Bonz label design is so similar to the label ral-clan designed for the Mega-Cart.

Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 3:52 pm
by carlsson
True, the Behr-Bonz doesn't come with a label. When it comes to trademark infringement, I don't think the company owning the trademark would make a difference if you made money on selling your product or not.

Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 4:22 pm
by hawk
gklinger wrote:
RobertBe wrote:(but why is the C= upside-down?)
It's not upside down; it's backwards and you would know why if you had read the Mega-Cart label threads.

Speaking of which, it's a shame that the Behr-Bonz label design is so similar to the label ral-clan designed for the Mega-Cart.
I guess it's inevitable that they look very similar...the Commodore label is the most obvious label to copy to get that "Retro" feel.

As for the Denial logo...like I said, I liked his proposal...I think it's a fitting logo for a group of people tinkering on Commodore's 'trailing edge'. :wink:

Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 5:09 pm
by eslapion
gklinger wrote:... Speaking of which, it's a shame that the Behr-Bonz label design is so similar to the label ral-clan designed for the Mega-Cart.
Considering how carefully the fonts have been selected, I think it bears striking similarity to original Commodore carts far more than it does the Megacart label.

Its not everyone's responsibility to read all the threads related to other devices just because somebody else decided to also make a label that has similarity to original Commodore VIC-20 carts.