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Italian, German, and French language help needed
Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2023 11:56 pm
by Jeff-20
I need help translating some VIC related concepts into Italian, German, and French. Can any native speakers help me with more natural or universal terms? Here's what I have so far...
BASIC (like BASIC language)
COMANDI
BEFEHLE
COMMANDES
CHARACTERS (like onscreen characters)
CARATERRI
ZEICHENVORRATS
PERSONNAGES
SCREEN MAP
MAPPA DELLO SCHERMO
BILDSCHIRMPLAN
CARTE D'ÉCRAN
GRAPHICS (like user defined graphics)
GRAFICA
GRAFIK
GRAPHIQUE
MEMORY MAP
MAPPA DELLA MEMORIA
SPEICHERKARTE
CARTE MÉMOIRE
SOUND
SUONO
SONDEREFFEKTE
DU SON
LABELS (this is for the memory monikers)
ETICHETTE DI MEMORIA
ERINNERUNGSETIKETTEN
ÉTIQUETTES DE MÉMOIRE
ASSEMBLY
LINGUAGGIO MACCHINA
MASCHINENSPRACHE
LANGUAGE DE MACHINE
HARDWARE
HARDWARE
HARDWARE
MATÉRIEL
CONTROLLERS
TITOLARI
SPIELECONTROLLER
CONTRÔLEURS
VICMON (would this even be translated for different monitors?)
STORAGE
CONSERVAZIONE
DATEN ABSPEICHERN
STOCKAGE
ERRORS
MESSAGGI DI ERRORE
FEHLERMELDUNGEN
LES ERREURS
INDEX
INDICE ALFABETICO
STICHWORTVERZEICHNIS
INDICE
Re: Italian, German, and French language help needed
Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2023 12:03 am
by groepaz
german:
BASIC (like BASIC language) - this is called
BASIC, its a name
CHARACTERS -
Zeichen or
Zeichensatz
SCREEN MAP -
Bildschirmspeicher
MEMORY MAP - I'd not translate this. "
Speicherbelegung" would be OK
SOUND -
Geräusche perhaps. Depends on Context
LABELS -
Sprungmarken
ASSEMBLY - I'd not translate this either ("
Assembler"). Also "Assembly" and "Machine Language" aren't the same thing
"
Maschinensprache"
STORAGE -
Massenspeicher (as in "Mass Storage")
others look ok
Re: Italian, German, and French language help needed
Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2023 4:46 am
by MCes
Italian:
BASIC (like BASIC language) - this is called BASIC, its a name
ASSEMBLY - I'd not translate this either ("Assembler"). Also "Assembly" and "Machine Language" aren't the same thing
"machine language"="linguaggio macchina"
CONTROLLERS (like micro CONTROLLERs) is "CONTROLLORI"(singular:"CONTROLLORE"), it can be used for memory bank controllers but for CPU the right will be... "CPU" or "MICROPROCESSORE"/"PROCESSORE" (plural:"MICROPROCESSORI"/"PROCESSORI")
"Commodore vic20 use a 6502 as uP but it use a 6560/6561 audio/video chip as sistem controller"
"Commodore vic20 usa come processore un 6502 ma usa come controllore di sistema il circuito integrato audio/video 6560/6561"
[(circuito integrato): the term "chip" can also be used in Italian]
STORAGE it depends on the meaning of the sentence, in Italian there are several different translations with differences in meaning
ERRORS= "ERRORI" (singular ERROR="ERRORE") ,
["messaggio di errore"="ERROR MESSAGE"]
INDEX="INDICE"
INDICE ALFABETICO="ALPHABETICAL INDEX"
ask to Orion70 for better translation...
Re: Italian, German, and French language help needed
Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2023 5:19 am
by majikeyric
French:
BASIC --> BASIC
CHARACTERS --> caractères
SCREEN MAP --> mémoire écran
GRAPHICS --> graphiques
MEMORY MAP --> mémoire de l'ordinateur
SOUND --> son
LABELS --> labels
ASSEMBLY --> LANGAGE MACHINE
HARDWARE --> MATÉRIEL
CONTROLLERS --> CONTRÔLEURS
VICMON --> VICMON
STORAGE --> STOCKAGE
ERRORS --> ERREURS
INDEX --> INDICE
Re: Italian, German, and French language help needed
Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2023 7:11 pm
by Jeff-20
Thanks, everyone!
This is very helpful. The context is a book table of contents... I should clarify.
groepaz wrote: ↑Sun Jan 22, 2023 12:03 am
BASIC (like BASIC language) - this is called
BASIC, its a name
This section is a list of BASIC commands. Might that change your answer?
MCes wrote: ↑Sun Jan 22, 2023 4:46 am
CONTROLLERS (like micro CONTROLLERs) is "CONTROLLORI"(singular:"CONTROLLORE"), it can be used for memory bank controllers but for CPU the right will be...
I mean Joystick, Paddles, Peripherals...
MCes wrote: ↑Sun Jan 22, 2023 4:46 am
STORAGE it depends on the meaning of the sentence, in Italian there are several different translations with differences in meaning
I mean disk drive, tape...
Also, would there by any other synonyms for Machine Language Monitor?
Re: Italian, German, and French language help needed
Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2023 11:55 pm
by groepaz
list of BASIC commands -> Liste der BASIC Befehle
Machine Language Monitor -> Maschinensprache-Monitor
Re: Italian, German, and French language help needed
Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2023 5:06 am
by majikeyric
Jeff-20 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 22, 2023 7:11 pm
Also, would there by any other synonyms for Machine Language Monitor?
french:
Moniteur de langage machine
Re: Italian, German, and French language help needed
Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2023 1:09 pm
by marco.bergomi
In italian:
BASIC (like BASIC language)
COMANDI
CHARACTERS (like onscreen characters)
CARATTERI
SCREEN MAP
MAPPA DELLO SCHERMO
GRAPHICS (like user defined graphics)
GRAFICA
MEMORY MAP
MAPPA DELLA MEMORIA
SOUND
SUONO
LABELS (this is for the memory monikers)
ETICHETTE DI MEMORIA
ASSEMBLY
LINGUAGGIO MACCHINA
HARDWARE
HARDWARE
CONTROLLERS
Controllori / Controlli
VICMON (would this even be translated for different monitors?)
like in english VICMON
STORAGE
is better in english = STORAGE
ERRORS
MESSAGGI DI ERRORE
INDEX
INDICE
Bye Marco
Re: Italian, German, and French language help needed
Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2023 2:41 am
by Jeff-20
What would you call this is your respective languages...? I don't even know for sure what to call it in English. "Values"? "Value Chart"? (excuse the errors)
Re: Italian, German, and French language help needed
Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2023 1:18 pm
by marco.bergomi
Jeff-20 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 24, 2023 2:41 am
What would you call this is your respective languages...? I don't even know for sure what to call it in English. "Values"? "Value Chart"? (excuse the errors)
Hi, in italian: "Tavola dei valori PETSCII" ...i think is possible.
Bye
Re: Italian, German, and French language help needed
Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2023 11:36 pm
by groepaz
What would you call this is your respective languages
It's a bit hard to find a single word for it, since there is so much unrelated info put together in the table *shrug*
Re: Italian, German, and French language help needed
Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2023 8:40 pm
by Jeff-20
groepaz wrote: ↑Tue Jan 24, 2023 11:36 pm
What would you call this is your respective languages
It's a bit hard to find a single word for it, since there is so much unrelated info put together in the table *shrug*
Usefullness aside, would "WERTDIAGRAMM" be acceptable to you?
Re: Italian, German, and French language help needed
Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2023 1:38 am
by groepaz
A "Diagram" is usually something graphical... This is a table ("Tabelle"). If it would only include the characters, then "Zeichentabelle" would be fitting. But i really dont know how to properly describe this one, its an interesting mashup of information
Re: Italian, German, and French language help needed
Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2023 2:06 pm
by Jeff-20
groepaz wrote: ↑Fri Jan 27, 2023 1:38 am
A "Diagram" is usually something graphical... This is a table ("Tabelle"). If it would only include the characters, then "Zeichentabelle" would be fitting. But i really dont know how to properly describe this one, its an interesting mashup of information
Ah, good observation! This is a difficult one for me, but I really appreciate your help! "Wertetabelle"?
Re: Italian, German, and French language help needed
Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2023 3:22 am
by groepaz
That would be technically correct ("Table of Values" - i guess every table that contains values qualifies as such)