Should these tapes be archived?
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Should these tapes be archived?
A user on Atari Age is asking this question here: http://atariage.com/forums/topic/274023 ... digitized/ if you want them archived please let him know or let me know and I will post a response.
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Re: Should these tapes be archived?
Pics for subscribers only. Can you please post them?
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I tried... Atariage seems to protect their pictures and prevents you from saving them!!orion70 wrote:Pics for subscribers only. Can you please post them?
I recognized a bunch of software from Abacus Software.
Names include:
Graphvics
Tiny basic compiler (this one really gets me salivating!)
Piper - The music machine
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Re: Should these tapes be archived?
orion70 wrote:Pics for subscribers only. Can you please post them?
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Some are doubles, some marked with "bad load". All of them seem to be utilities, which makes me even more curious .
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Re: Should these tapes be archived?
AA has an upload feature, I guess it's a way to try to claw some bandwidth downwards from third party linking etc.eslapion wrote:I tried... Atariage seems to protect their pictures and prevents you from saving them!!
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The original poster in AtariAge specified we should disregard the 'bad load' stickers. Apparently somebody tried to load them on Atari computers.orion70 wrote:Some are doubles, some marked with "bad load". All of them seem to be utilities, which makes me even more curious .
savetz wrote:I wouldn't worry about the "bad load" labels. I think someone at some point was trying to load these on an Atari system.
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I'd very much like to have them saved for posterity! Even a good WAV of each title would suffice if the OP cannot dump them - we could do the rest.
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The tapes referenced above have been captured to .wav files. I converted them to .tap and they are attached. Note: I haven't tested them yet but the conversions did contain files. I will test them later, or someone can let me know if they work. The WAVs are also available at the link above on Atari Age. They are a bit large to attach.
EDIT: I'm having issues converting them. I think the level is low. I will continue and post when ready.
I think they are not good recordings...or I don't know what I'm doing..Someone else want to give it a try?
EDIT: I'm having issues converting them. I think the level is low. I will continue and post when ready.
I think they are not good recordings...or I don't know what I'm doing..Someone else want to give it a try?
- Attachments
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- Noble Computers - Spelling Practise.zip
- (15.94 MiB) Downloaded 264 times
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- Abacus Software - Graphvics.zip
- (27.19 MiB) Downloaded 276 times
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- Ababus Software - Piper the Music Machine.zip
- (27.44 MiB) Downloaded 267 times
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- Ababus Software - Budgeteer.zip
- (34.47 MiB) Downloaded 279 times
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- Ababus Software - Budgeteer - copy 2.zip
- (34.66 MiB) Downloaded 285 times
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- Ababus Software - Tiny BASIC Compiler.wav.zip
- (49.6 MiB) Downloaded 306 times
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Re: Should these tapes be archived?
I was able to recover the basic compiler and spelling program using Audacity to improve the signal. It's attached.
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- Noble Computers - Spelling Practise_TAP.zip
- (37.46 KiB) Downloaded 271 times
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- Ababus Software - Tiny BASIC Compiler_TAP.zip
- (135.56 KiB) Downloaded 276 times
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Looks like we are no longer limited to Austro Compiler !! Excellent news!norm8332 wrote:I was able to recover the basic compiler and spelling program using Audacity to improve the signal. It's attached.
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The other tapes appear to be too poor quality at least for me to extract any working programs. I realize the files are quite large..I guess after people have attempted to recover them they could be removed if that is an issue. I couldn't figure out how to use the compiler in the brief time I tried (not my thing). Does it work?
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Re: Should these tapes be archived?
Apparently, this only compiles mathematical programs, like the sample provided within the program. It won't compile full basic programs.
A description of the compiler can be found here
A description of the compiler can be found here
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vicist wrote:Apparently, this only compiles mathematical programs, like the sample provided within the program. It won't compile full basic programs.
A description of the compiler can be found here
Very tiny compiler indeed...
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Re: Should these tapes be archived?
The article seems very lenient on a $25 product!
It doesn't even support PEEK or POKE, which would make it just about practical. As it is, it seems like a toy.
I think it would be fun to write a modern CBM basic compiler.
Some thoughts I had:
- default the variables to float
- use a separate hints file to tell the compiler the variable types (byte, word, long, float)
- run the basic program in a special emulator that monitors the variables and deduces the variable types
- detect certain code patterns and replace with cheap alternatives (eg empty for-next for delays; keyboard and joystick routines; reading data and poking to memory, or filling an array)
It doesn't even support PEEK or POKE, which would make it just about practical. As it is, it seems like a toy.
I think it would be fun to write a modern CBM basic compiler.
Some thoughts I had:
- default the variables to float
- use a separate hints file to tell the compiler the variable types (byte, word, long, float)
- run the basic program in a special emulator that monitors the variables and deduces the variable types
- detect certain code patterns and replace with cheap alternatives (eg empty for-next for delays; keyboard and joystick routines; reading data and poking to memory, or filling an array)