Sold: Final Expansion 3 Rev 11 [2nd Batch]
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Sold: Final Expansion 3 Rev 11 [2nd Batch]
This batch is sold out. The next batch is for sale now at: http://sleepingelephant.com/ipw-web/bul ... php?t=8636
This thread is for pre-ordering a Final Expansion 3 Rev 11 from the 2nd batch. The first batch is sold out. I need at least 14 paid pre-orders before I will order parts. Because of this, I cannot give a definitive delivery time frame until I order parts. No refunds will be given after parts are ordered.
e5frog and SkydivinGirl are happy to present the VIC-20 Final Expansion 3 Rev 11.
This revision of the Final Expansion 3 is functionally equivalent to both the Rev 9 and Rev 10 versions that have been sold in the past. It features the following:
• Built-In Menu System.
• A Built-in SD2IEC drive capable of running the latest SD2IEC firmware.
• SD2IEC EEPROM File System (Beta). Allows you to store some files in the SD2IEC without using an SD card. See SD2IEC documentation for usage.
• Diskloader to access files on the SD2IEC from the menu system.
• Battery Backed Real Time Clock (RTC) for accurate Time/Date stamps on SD2IEC.
• 512KB configurable memory expansion.
• 512KB Programmable ROM. Flash your programs to ROM directly from your VIC-20.
• FE3 DOS Wedge with SJLoad (JiffyDOS Compatible Load/Save).
• Dual Reset Buttons – Resets current running configuration or back to menu.
Final Expansion WIKI: http://sleepingelephant.com/denial/wiki ... _Expansion
Final Expansion Manual: http://koti.kapsi.fi/~jvaltane/vic20/fe ... Manual.pdf
The Final Expansion 3 Rev 11 has the following changes:
• Dual IEC Headers allow you to use standard IEC cables as well as connect other IEC devices to your VIC-20 at the same time.
• IEC cables can still be soldered directly to the PCB in place of the IEC headers if you prefer. Strain relief holes are provided on the PCB to allow for this type of assembly.
• Component changes to allow for easier sourcing of parts and assembly of the kit.
• Tactile switches allow for easier case mounting and removal of the case when replacing the Battery.
• Downloadable 3D case designed by COREi64. (See Below)
• One of three labels to match the case mounting option of your choice: Standard VIC-20 case without IEC Headers (cable directly wired), Standard VIC-20 case with IEC headers (top case cut to accommodate IEC Headers), or COREi64 designed case.
• EEPROM pre-programmed with games by Jeffrey Daniels of the VIC-20 DENIAL Website.
COREi64 has a case for the Final Expansion 3 Rev 11. The case is not included with a kit or assembled device. You can purchase it from his web store, Shapeways, or download the files to print yourself!
COREi64 Store: http://corei64.com/store/products.php?65&cPath=15_1
Shapeways: http://www.shapeways.com/product/FK5UXF ... ridge-case
Thingiverse: http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1928304
I have 25 Units available for this batch. These units are available in either Kit form to assemble yourself or fully assembled devices. There are some surface mount components. I will mount these components free for people who want kits but are unable to mount these parts themselves.
One label is included with each kit/device. There are four different labels to choose from.
Standard Shell:
Standard Shell with DIN Cutouts:
Standard Shell with DIN and Switch Cutouts:
COREi64 Case:
Pre-Order Pricing:
$65.00 - Kit + Label **
$110.00 - Fully Assembled & Tested + Label
$1 - Each Additional Label
Money from pre-orders is used to purchase parts. Therefore, no refunds can be given on pre-orders. You will receive the products you purchase.
** Kits are guaranteed to have all the parts and they will be shipped in a new box with adequate packing material to protect the parts. I cannot be responsible if a device you assemble does not work. I will work with you to perform troubleshooting and help in any way I can.
Kit Assembly: http://www.lemon64.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=767044
Shipping Notice: Each device is about 6 Ounces. Shipping one device to most countries outside the USA will cost around $13.50. Shipping more than one device will cost around $22.50. Please send me your mailing address via PM along with the number of kits/devices you want so I can get you an accurate shipping quote. Shipping to Canada is less expensive than other International destinations. Shipping up to three kits within the USA is $7.15. Shipping multiple assembled devices may cost more. If shipping prices change between the time you place your pre-order and the actual shipping date, you will be responsible for the difference.
I also have C8D Joystick Switchers available.
PAYPAL NOTICE
Payment must be paid via PayPal Gift/Personal Payment. I no longer accept standard PayPal payments.
Please read the following before contacting me to buy:
Please be courteous of my time. If you do not contact me after I take the time to get a shipping quote and send it to you then I will not sell anything to you in the future. All I ask is that you respond, even if the shipping quote is too high or something comes up and you can't afford it.
A huge thanks to Diddl and everyone who has worked on the Final Expansion 3. I also could not have offered this project without the tireless efforts of e5frog. He does amazing PCB design and I’m happy to have partnered with him to bring another amazing kit to the community.
Heather
This thread is for pre-ordering a Final Expansion 3 Rev 11 from the 2nd batch. The first batch is sold out. I need at least 14 paid pre-orders before I will order parts. Because of this, I cannot give a definitive delivery time frame until I order parts. No refunds will be given after parts are ordered.
e5frog and SkydivinGirl are happy to present the VIC-20 Final Expansion 3 Rev 11.
This revision of the Final Expansion 3 is functionally equivalent to both the Rev 9 and Rev 10 versions that have been sold in the past. It features the following:
• Built-In Menu System.
• A Built-in SD2IEC drive capable of running the latest SD2IEC firmware.
• SD2IEC EEPROM File System (Beta). Allows you to store some files in the SD2IEC without using an SD card. See SD2IEC documentation for usage.
• Diskloader to access files on the SD2IEC from the menu system.
• Battery Backed Real Time Clock (RTC) for accurate Time/Date stamps on SD2IEC.
• 512KB configurable memory expansion.
• 512KB Programmable ROM. Flash your programs to ROM directly from your VIC-20.
• FE3 DOS Wedge with SJLoad (JiffyDOS Compatible Load/Save).
• Dual Reset Buttons – Resets current running configuration or back to menu.
Final Expansion WIKI: http://sleepingelephant.com/denial/wiki ... _Expansion
Final Expansion Manual: http://koti.kapsi.fi/~jvaltane/vic20/fe ... Manual.pdf
The Final Expansion 3 Rev 11 has the following changes:
• Dual IEC Headers allow you to use standard IEC cables as well as connect other IEC devices to your VIC-20 at the same time.
• IEC cables can still be soldered directly to the PCB in place of the IEC headers if you prefer. Strain relief holes are provided on the PCB to allow for this type of assembly.
• Component changes to allow for easier sourcing of parts and assembly of the kit.
• Tactile switches allow for easier case mounting and removal of the case when replacing the Battery.
• Downloadable 3D case designed by COREi64. (See Below)
• One of three labels to match the case mounting option of your choice: Standard VIC-20 case without IEC Headers (cable directly wired), Standard VIC-20 case with IEC headers (top case cut to accommodate IEC Headers), or COREi64 designed case.
• EEPROM pre-programmed with games by Jeffrey Daniels of the VIC-20 DENIAL Website.
COREi64 has a case for the Final Expansion 3 Rev 11. The case is not included with a kit or assembled device. You can purchase it from his web store, Shapeways, or download the files to print yourself!
COREi64 Store: http://corei64.com/store/products.php?65&cPath=15_1
Shapeways: http://www.shapeways.com/product/FK5UXF ... ridge-case
Thingiverse: http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1928304
I have 25 Units available for this batch. These units are available in either Kit form to assemble yourself or fully assembled devices. There are some surface mount components. I will mount these components free for people who want kits but are unable to mount these parts themselves.
One label is included with each kit/device. There are four different labels to choose from.
Standard Shell:
Standard Shell with DIN Cutouts:
Standard Shell with DIN and Switch Cutouts:
COREi64 Case:
Pre-Order Pricing:
$65.00 - Kit + Label **
$110.00 - Fully Assembled & Tested + Label
$1 - Each Additional Label
Money from pre-orders is used to purchase parts. Therefore, no refunds can be given on pre-orders. You will receive the products you purchase.
** Kits are guaranteed to have all the parts and they will be shipped in a new box with adequate packing material to protect the parts. I cannot be responsible if a device you assemble does not work. I will work with you to perform troubleshooting and help in any way I can.
Kit Assembly: http://www.lemon64.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=767044
Shipping Notice: Each device is about 6 Ounces. Shipping one device to most countries outside the USA will cost around $13.50. Shipping more than one device will cost around $22.50. Please send me your mailing address via PM along with the number of kits/devices you want so I can get you an accurate shipping quote. Shipping to Canada is less expensive than other International destinations. Shipping up to three kits within the USA is $7.15. Shipping multiple assembled devices may cost more. If shipping prices change between the time you place your pre-order and the actual shipping date, you will be responsible for the difference.
I also have C8D Joystick Switchers available.
PAYPAL NOTICE
Payment must be paid via PayPal Gift/Personal Payment. I no longer accept standard PayPal payments.
Please read the following before contacting me to buy:
Please be courteous of my time. If you do not contact me after I take the time to get a shipping quote and send it to you then I will not sell anything to you in the future. All I ask is that you respond, even if the shipping quote is too high or something comes up and you can't afford it.
A huge thanks to Diddl and everyone who has worked on the Final Expansion 3. I also could not have offered this project without the tireless efforts of e5frog. He does amazing PCB design and I’m happy to have partnered with him to bring another amazing kit to the community.
Heather
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Re: Pre-Orders: Final Expansion 3 Rev 11 [2nd Batch]
Wow, this batch is going faster than I thought it would. I've received enough paid pre-orders to purchase the parts. If all goes well, kits should ship by the end of the month and assembled devices should ship in the first half of February.
Thanks everyone for your support!
Heather
Thanks everyone for your support!
Heather
Re: Pre-Orders: Final Expansion 3 Rev 11 [2nd Batch]
I've just ordered the COREi64 case to go along with mine.
Back from the Caribbean,
Robert Bernardo
Fresno Commodore User Group
http://www.dickestel.com/fcug.htm
Back from the Caribbean,
Robert Bernardo
Fresno Commodore User Group
http://www.dickestel.com/fcug.htm
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Re: Pre-Orders: Final Expansion 3 Rev 11 [2nd Batch]
They really are great cases and I like the way they look with the label.
I've ordered the parts! There are a couple back-ordered items but they are common so they should arrive quickly. I'll update the thread as I have more information.
Heather
I've ordered the parts! There are a couple back-ordered items but they are common so they should arrive quickly. I'll update the thread as I have more information.
Heather
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Re: Pre-Orders: Final Expansion 3 Rev 11 [2nd Batch]
I have all the parts except for some back-ordered resistors that are scheduled to ship at the end of the month. I'll update the thread as I have more information.
Heather
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Re: Pre-Orders: Final Expansion 3 Rev 11 [2nd Batch]
I just received an email letting me know the back-ordered resistors are shipping today!
Just 3 devices/kits left from this batch!
Heather
Just 3 devices/kits left from this batch!
Heather
Re: Pre-Orders: Final Expansion 3 Rev 11 [2nd Batch]
Awesome! I just rec'd my 3D printed case from Corei64. just waiting on this to ship and I'll be all set to go.
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Re: Pre-Orders: Final Expansion 3 Rev 11 [2nd Batch]
I have all the back ordered parts and will begin working on kits and assembled devices this weekend. Keep an eye on the thread for updates!
Heather
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Re: Pre-Orders: Final Expansion 3 Rev 11 [2nd Batch]
I am not sure if I missed something. I just assembled 2 units. Both work fine as SD2IEC, however no menu on startup.
Instructions http://koti.kapsi.fi/~jvaltane/vic20/fe ... Manual.pdf point to a dead link
Firmware installation
After assembling the Final Expansion 3 your flash memory is empty and the controller flash also. You need to install the FE3 firmware: http://vc20final.t-winkler.net/zip/ After assembling the Final Expansion 3 no firmware is installed. Switching on the VIC-20 you will see same as without connected FE3 (normal VIC-20 start message screen). You must install the firmware to support the new hardware.
Instructions http://koti.kapsi.fi/~jvaltane/vic20/fe ... Manual.pdf point to a dead link
Firmware installation
After assembling the Final Expansion 3 your flash memory is empty and the controller flash also. You need to install the FE3 firmware: http://vc20final.t-winkler.net/zip/ After assembling the Final Expansion 3 no firmware is installed. Switching on the VIC-20 you will see same as without connected FE3 (normal VIC-20 start message screen). You must install the firmware to support the new hardware.
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Re: Pre-Orders: Final Expansion 3 Rev 11 [2nd Batch]
Well I managed to find a firmware here
http://www.amibay.com/showthread.php?87 ... post821944
and a flash util here
http://www.sinchai.de/soft/fe3firmwareR021.zip
now it works.
http://www.amibay.com/showthread.php?87 ... post821944
and a flash util here
http://www.sinchai.de/soft/fe3firmwareR021.zip
now it works.
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Re: Pre-Orders: Final Expansion 3 Rev 11 [2nd Batch]
Glad you got it working. I sent you a link to R022d firmware. Sorry it wasn't flashed beforehand. It should have been.
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Re: Pre-Orders: Final Expansion 3 Rev 11 [2nd Batch]
Thanks Heather.
Is it normal that the RED & GREEN LED stay on at 1st power up for 20 seconds? During this time then SD2IEC is not accessable? I have a 32gb SD card attached, and assume that the card is being scanned at startup as with no SD card inserted, the LEDs stay on for 2 seconds only.
How can I make this faster?
Is it normal that the RED & GREEN LED stay on at 1st power up for 20 seconds? During this time then SD2IEC is not accessable? I have a 32gb SD card attached, and assume that the card is being scanned at startup as with no SD card inserted, the LEDs stay on for 2 seconds only.
How can I make this faster?
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Re: Pre-Orders: Final Expansion 3 Rev 11 [2nd Batch]
The SD2IEC LEDs should only stay on for a moment when the device is started or reset. The only time it should stay on as long as you are seeing is when the firmware is being flashed. Make sure you don't have any SD2IEC firmware files on your SD card. I've never seen it stay on longer in any other situation.
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Re: Pre-Orders: Final Expansion 3 Rev 11 [2nd Batch]
No firmware onboard. Just timed it now. 23 seconds.
The contents of my SD card:
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Re: Pre-Orders: Final Expansion 3 Rev 11 [2nd Batch]
What does it do without an SD card inserted? Does the SD2IEC work?
I'd say you should re-flash the SD2IEC firmware. You should use the larsp-m1284p firmware. Just copy it to the root of the SD card, insert it into the FE3 then turn on the VIC-20.
https://sd2iec.de/sd2iec-current-binaries.zip
Heather
I'd say you should re-flash the SD2IEC firmware. You should use the larsp-m1284p firmware. Just copy it to the root of the SD card, insert it into the FE3 then turn on the VIC-20.
https://sd2iec.de/sd2iec-current-binaries.zip
Heather