Vic20 cartridge works at C64 ?????

Mikam73 · Post by **Mikam73** » Mon Dec 25, 2006 3:16 pm

What ????

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SPEECH-SYNTHESISE ... dZViewItem

KilrPilr · Post by **KilrPilr** » Mon Dec 25, 2006 5:52 pm

Damn I was hoping no one would notice this. I am currently asking the seller to ship to me and was planning on bidding to win.

Mikam73 · Post by **Mikam73** » Mon Dec 25, 2006 6:07 pm

I already have one, it has box and cartridge pcb, but no cartridge covers. Course guy who had it before me had cartridge installed inside Vic20.. and other carts there too.

Anyway.. How Vic20 cartridge can work at C64?

a1bert · Post by **a1bert** » Tue Dec 26, 2006 3:43 am

Mikam73 wrote:How Vic20 cartridge can work at C64?

"using the supplied slot adaptor"

The required bus signals are available in the module port. The picture shows an adapter from VIC20's 3.6mm-> C64's 2.54mm card edge connection. This handles the physical conversion.

-Pasi

Mikam73 · Post by **Mikam73** » Tue Dec 26, 2006 8:38 am

a1bert wrote:
Mikam73 wrote:How Vic20 cartridge can work at C64?
"using the supplied slot adaptor"

The required bus signals are available in the module port. The picture shows an adapter from VIC20's 3.6mm-> C64's 2.54mm card edge connection. This handles the physical conversion.

-Pasi

Hi Albert.

Physical conversion/adapter is not so amazing.. But how Vic20 cartridge/software can run at C64? Is there any other softwares that run both machines? I know that simple basic softwares run ofcourse, but..

Schema · Post by **Schema** » Tue Dec 26, 2006 9:53 am

Is the software built into the cartridge, or do you have to load it from disk/tape?

I could see how it would work if all the cartridge does is "expose" the speech chip registers to a series of registers on IO1 or IO2. Then it would easily work on both C64 and VIC20.

If the software can run from cartridge on either system though, that's a lot more impressive.

Mikam73 · Post by **Mikam73** » Tue Dec 26, 2006 11:38 am

When you press keys, it says letters/numbers. You can turn it on/off, from F1-F8 (If i remember correct). And write simple programs that speak. I havent find any extra commands.

It might work with programs like this:

10 s$="h/e/l/l/o"
20 sys41000

gklinger · Post by **gklinger** » Tue Dec 26, 2006 3:29 pm

KilrPilr wrote:Damn I was hoping no one would notice this. I am currently asking the seller to ship to me and was planning on bidding to win.

Wow, you're on a roll lately. I saw that you won the CMD HD too. Good job! I love it when cool items go to members of the community.

Post by **Jeff-20** » Tue Dec 26, 2006 4:45 pm

Whoever gets it, please report here after a close inspection of the item.

Mikam73 · Post by **Mikam73** » Tue Dec 26, 2006 5:17 pm

Chatter Box and this looks just like same, if you open cart and look pcb.

Think that start up screen looks same too.

I have both..

ral-clan · Post by **ral-clan** » Wed Dec 27, 2006 11:32 am

I've seen a hi-res photo of the slot adaptor (which allows one to use this on a C64). It is indeed just a "pin-density" convertor. So I guess that this cartridge actually contains to "software" but it just a bunch of electronics that either a VIC or C64 can access via lines, and software loaded from disk or tape. I think the picture was on Jogi's site.