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Re: SaRuMan-TED 64k RAM for C16 and C116

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eslapion wrote: Sun Dec 08, 2019 3:57 am I will kindly ask you to refrain from posting in the threads related to my products, as I do with yours.
Yes,
excuse me but I was victim of my technical curiosity,
and now that the V1.4 SARUMAN-TED pass the DIAG 264 tests there are not reasons to speaking about it ...

I have "reduced" my previous post because it was not intended for injure your project, but it could be misunderstood.
Ok, now I'll try to be silent....
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Technical detail: This product, like other SaRuMan products, consumes only 5mA of power.
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Just played Slipstream on C16 for the very first time. Most impressive.

https://psytronik.itch.io/slipstream
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With DIAG264...
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The handmade prototype of SaRuMan-TED:
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Ok, now that you have updated the schematic of V1.4 (now V1.5?) I have no more perplessity about its wellworking,
but I noticed that this patch is done with another gate located into a "single gate chip",
but all it can be done in a more elegant way with a single 74 chip.
I wrote a "pizzino" (see pic) with a possible solution, it's a theoretical schematic but it should work at first shot...

I hope this post will be welcomed.
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This solution is based on double decoder '139,
with its A0 input the "Y" half selects which output (Dynamic or Static) will be driven by /CAS-TED signal,
so the switch will select the S-64k or D-16k ram bank.
The second half "X" is used as "LUT" and its /Q0 will be "L" only if the CLK are "L" during a Write cycle,
it will deselect the S-Ram lowering the ram input CS2 (that is active H).
So the "X" half will limit the CAS time to the falling edge of the CLOCK but only during a write cycle.
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MCes wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2019 11:32 am I hope this post will be welcomed.
If you see a problem and have a solution to offer, the information is always welcome.

Unless of course, you see a problem and honestly don't know of a solution, you can always mention it too.
but I noticed that this patch is done with another gate located into a "single gate chip",

This solution is based on double decoder '139,
I do see a problem with your solution; both outputs (!Q0 and !Q1) from the second (Y) selector will require pull-up resistors*. Otherwise, this solution seems good. However, I get my PCBs made and populated in China. They only offer CMOS logic ICs and have no 74HCT139 or 74AHCT139 in stock. 74LS139 is not available.

Stock 0 ... https://jlcpcb.com/quote#/parts/compone ... t=74HCT139

Even if they did, the price for a 74HCT139 in SOIC (they don't carry TSSOP) is $0.2450 while a TSSOP HCT00 is $0.1189 and the single gate 74AHCT1G32 is $0.0624 so the price for my present solution is $0.1813 which remains less expensive.

* a solution is to swap your connections of GND to !E and !CASTED to A1.
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Re: SaRuMan-TED 64k RAM for C16 and C116

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eslapion wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2019 7:24 pm I do see a problem with your solution; both outputs (!Q0 and !Q1) from the second (Y) selector will require pull-up resistors
It don't need any pull up resistors, "H" on /E input doesn't drive in high impedance the outputs,
but simply it will deselect all of them (deselected line= "H" levels, not 3state..)

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MCes wrote: Wed Dec 18, 2019 1:07 am It don't need any pull up resistors, "H" on /E input doesn't drive in high impedance the outputs,
but simply it will deselect all of them (deselected line= "H" levels, not 3state..)
Correct... that tells you how often I use demuxers... I also avoid TTL-LS ICs because they're not available in TSSOP format.
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The new V1.4 boards have arrived in good condition. A few of them were tested and all is OK now.

The new units begin shipping on Monday.
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The version with NO SWITCH (64k all the time) is 13.50$US or 12 Euros per unit + shipping.
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Hi, Do you stil offer the V1.2 for free?
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eslapion wrote: Wed Dec 04, 2019 6:00 am
MCes wrote: Wed Dec 04, 2019 5:26 am
eslapion wrote: Wed Dec 04, 2019 5:24 am
Actually it does now.

There was an error on PCB v1.2 and everyone who got that version got a refund. PCB V1.4 is in production.

Since the people who got V1.2 were refunded AND there is a fix, the people who do the fix get a free 64k RAM expansion for their C16.
Thanks!
At your service.

Since my little Chinese friends left me stuck with more than 20 PCBs of V1.2, they are free to a good home. Would you be interested in a few ?
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emilen72 wrote: Thu Apr 23, 2020 11:35 am Hi, Do you stil offer the V1.2 for free?
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Sure. Just pay for postage.

Any reason why you'd want faulty PCBs ? Want to make a bunch of key chains ?
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Re: SaRuMan-TED 64k RAM for C16 and C116

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Hi,

I'm interested in two SaRuMan-TEDs, one with and one without a switch, shipping to Germany. Could you please PM me for further details?
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Re: SaRuMan-TED 64k RAM for C16 and C116

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Hi there, Eslapion is not in this forum anymore.

See HERE.
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