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Re: Behr-Bonz 2015

Postby mrr19121970 » Wed Jul 27, 2016 12:45 am

So if I understand you right then you can use this double capacity card and have 1x127 16kb slots occupied and 1x128 16kb slots free.

3x SJLOAD locations. We just need to think of 125 other games that we might consider essential?

There is no way to make a 37k memory expansion too?

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Re: Behr-Bonz 2015

Postby eslapion » Wed Jul 27, 2016 1:54 am

mrr19121970 wrote:So if I understand you right then you can use this double capacity card and have 1x127 16kb slots occupied and 1x128 16kb slots free.

If "free" means you can alter the content once you have the cart then the answer is no. Even with flash, I can't equip the Behr-Bonz to alter the content of the storage memory so everything has to be placed in the chip before it is installed on the cart.

You can choose in advance content you want "burned" into the chip. Also, you'll get 1x128 16kB slots IF and only IF you forfeit the menu for the second half and resort to directly "poking" your choice of software. It's much easier to have 2 menus and 2x127 16kB slots.

There is no way to make a 37k memory expansion too?

Nope, the Bher-Bonz uses BLK1,2,3 and 5 which are required by such expansion.

However, there is no conflict with a 3k RAM expansion as well as another 1k RAM in the IO2 area.
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Re: Behr-Bonz 2015

Postby eslapion » Tue Aug 23, 2016 6:14 am

There are 4 people so far who have indicated they would like a Behr-Bonz cartridge.

Anybody else would like to see another batch getting produced ?
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Re: Behr-Bonz 2015

Postby Barney » Tue Aug 23, 2016 6:32 am

If you make a batch of "Double Capacity" Behr Bonz Carts, I'll take 2. Thanks.

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Re: Behr-Bonz 2015

Postby mrr19121970 » Tue Aug 23, 2016 6:37 am

yes. i am interested

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Re: Behr-Bonz 2015

Postby eslapion » Tue Aug 23, 2016 7:17 am

Barney wrote:If you make a batch of "Double Capacity" Behr Bonz Carts, I'll take 2. Thanks.

It's not too difficult to make double capacity Behr-Bonz, including the previously mentioned methods for doubling capacity, one of the cheapest potential solutions is simply to stack a pair of 27C160 EPROMs soldered piggyback on top of one another and use an ordinary switch to toggle which one is active.

The thing is, I have no clue what to shove in the extra space... It took about 100 hours of work to select the first 127 games for both PAL and NTSC versions and to make sure they all work ok on their respective systems.

Any volunteer to choose and test the extra material for a 32MBit version of the Behr-Bonz ?
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Re: Behr-Bonz 2015

Postby Barney » Tue Aug 23, 2016 5:28 pm

there are still several more Cart Games beyond the 127 you already have. Here is a list of several that could be added.

A World At War
Alien
Alien Sidestep
Alphabet Zoo
Amazing Maze
Ape Escape
Apple Panic
Baldor's Castle
Bank Robber
Bridge
Bug Crusher
Cave-in
Chuck Norris
Close Encounters
Commodore Artist
Congo Bongo
Crater Raider
Dancing Bear
Deadly Duck
Deadly Skies
D'fuse
Dot Gobbler
Droids
Facemaker
Fast Eddie
Fourth Encounter
Frogger
Frogman
Fun With Music
Ghost Manor
Gold Fever
Home Baby Sitter Ii
Kids On Keys
Kindercomp
K-star Patrol
Mastertype
Menagerie
Meteor Run
Mine Madness
Money Wars
Number Crunch
Number Nab./Shape Gr
Robin Hood
Satellites & Meteorites
Snake Byte
Space Snake
Speed & Bingo Math
Springer
Story Machine
Sub Chase
Tank Atak
Tank Wars
The Sky Is Falling
Tomarc The Barbarian
Vic Rally X
Witch Way
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Re: Behr-Bonz 2015

Postby eslapion » Tue Aug 23, 2016 5:38 pm

Barney wrote:... I could list several that could be added.

Please do!

Of course, it's very useful if you also post a link to the ROM images for the carts.
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Re: Behr-Bonz 2015

Postby Barney » Tue Aug 23, 2016 6:02 pm

I found a site that looks like it has them all according to file size (4, 8, 16, etc). Here it is:

http://www.zimmers.net/anonftp/pub/cbm/vic20/roms/

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Re: Behr-Bonz 2015

Postby eslapion » Tue Aug 23, 2016 6:09 pm

I can tell you right off the bat Cave-In, Rally X and Congo Bongo are all already present.

Then I noticed Cave-In is only present on the PAL version. I went back and sifted through my list and yes, there is an NTSC version.

That's why it is important if you list a title:
1. Make sure it's not already in there (many of your titles are)
2. Provide a link for the ROM image to avoid confusion.

Added edit:
These 4 titles are also already present on the Behr-Bonz;
Frogger
Frogman
Money Wars
The Sky is Falling
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Re: Behr-Bonz 2015

Postby eslapion » Tue Aug 23, 2016 6:18 pm

Barney wrote:I found a site that looks like it has them all according to file size (4, 8, 16, etc). Here it is:

http://www.zimmers.net/anonftp/pub/cbm/vic20/roms/

You suggested 56 games, of which 6 are already present so that leaves me to search for 50 different images to check if they are present, possibly more if there are some 16k games in there which use 2 ROMs.
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Re: Behr-Bonz 2015

Postby mrr19121970 » Tue Aug 23, 2016 11:01 pm

There are the 3 diagnosis cartridge roms, but they need a small amount of ram too

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Re: Behr-Bonz 2015

Postby eslapion » Wed Aug 24, 2016 7:07 am

mrr19121970 wrote:There are the 3 diagnosis cartridge roms, but they need a small amount of ram too

They could be worth including too. Do you have links for the ROM images ?
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Re: Behr-Bonz 2015

Postby mrr19121970 » Wed Aug 24, 2016 7:45 am

I have 2 pal and one ntsc on my penultimate cart. I have no idea how to dump them.

http://www.zimmers.net/anonftp/pub/cbm/ ... index.html
http://personalpages.tds.net/~rcarlsen/ ... 20%20cart/

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Re: Behr-Bonz 2015

Postby majikeyric » Wed Aug 24, 2016 12:06 pm

mrr19121970 wrote:I have 2 pal and one ntsc on my penultimate cart. I have no idea how to dump them.

http://www.zimmers.net/anonftp/pub/cbm/ ... index.html
http://personalpages.tds.net/~rcarlsen/ ... 20%20cart/


And you have also built the harness/kits ?


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