Spidey vs Doc Ock

darkatx · Post by **darkatx** » Thu Feb 07, 2013 11:35 pm

I haven't programmed a Basic game in over 20 years! I tried to conserve space by shying away from custom graphics and just using what I got but I went overboard and ran out of memory...any tips on tight Basic RAM code would be most welcome

Here's what I got so far...

I think I might actually have a extremely limited game for release soon.

Post by **Jeff-20** » Fri Feb 08, 2013 2:57 am

The title had me, but the screenshots looks unimaginably fun! C'mon, the statue of liberty?? hahaha

Why haven't there been more comic book games?!

Boray · Post by **Boray** » Fri Feb 08, 2013 11:13 am

Check under "out of memory" here:
http://user.tninet.se/~pug510w/datormuseum/optim.html

Witzo · Post by **Witzo** » Fri Feb 08, 2013 2:54 pm

Despite the blocky graphics, that looks remarkably dynamic!

Muzz73 · Post by **Muzz73** » Fri Feb 08, 2013 4:40 pm

Looks fun! Keep us posted!

darkatx · Post by **darkatx** » Fri Feb 08, 2013 11:54 pm

Thanks everyone and Thanks again for the tips Boray

Some of it I already figured out but stuffing all my subroutines to the top made perfect sense! I have over 200 bytes to play with now...still not finished tightening the code yet but it should be enough to get the battle damage in and maybe add back in some features I took out.

EDIT - did some cheap compression on my data statements and moved most everything up under line 100...have almost 350 bytes now.

Schema · Post by **Schema** » Sat Feb 09, 2013 4:08 pm

Love the screenshots. Well done, can't wait to try it.

Boray · Post by **Boray** » Sat Feb 09, 2013 4:31 pm

Why not use a ram expansion instead of taking things out?

darkatx · Post by **darkatx** » Sat Feb 09, 2013 4:42 pm

Boray wrote:Why not use a ram expansion instead of taking things out?

If I do that then I would end of making custom characters and would start using ML and defeating the purpose of my personal challenge. Also, I only took out narrative and a wall crawling feature that I plan to squeeze back in there now.

Don't get me wrong, I am entertaining the idea - I'd probably end up using RHurst SSSprites utility for sure. It would make this turn based mini into a full blown animated, arcade ML beast! I was working on something else though...this was just a side project.

Post by **Jeff-20** » Sat Feb 09, 2013 7:31 pm

Choosing not to use memory expansion is a design choice just like choosing to use a VIC 20. I like the look of your game as it is! Something is very fun about using the VIC's built-in character set.

RobertBe · Post by **RobertBe** » Sat Feb 09, 2013 8:43 pm

It looks like a cute game.

Truly,
Robert Bernardo
Fresno Commodore User Group
http://videocam.net.au/fcug

darkatx · Post by **darkatx** » Sun Feb 10, 2013 1:26 am

I've caved in...I'm going to have to use memory expansion. I finished the game but it ain't close to done

wimoos · Post by **wimoos** » Sun Feb 10, 2013 1:09 pm

Try basedit as a development tool.

darkatx · Post by **darkatx** » Sun Feb 10, 2013 2:31 pm

wimoos wrote:Try basedit as a development tool.

What a neat tool

Thanks!!!

I've done as much as I can with what I have - and its playable but nowhere near enjoyable.

I have animated swinging, webshots, battle damage and even a tiny death scene but no narrative, wall crawling and worst of all no sound. So as it stands now its a very bare bones game.

I'm switching hats now and will be slowly swapping out my Basic subroutines for ML. My main goal was to make as complete a game as possible on the unexpanded Vic using the base character set as my first choice. I knew it was going to be challenging...oh well.

EDIT - Wow, this BasEdit tool is pretty powerful stuff! I have some more room to play with now (removed a load of variables) and dare I say it - I had to add for/next loops to slow some Basic routines down

RJBowman · Post by **RJBowman** » Tue Feb 12, 2013 9:54 pm

What's eating up all the memory?

Denial

Spidey vs Doc Ock

Spidey vs Doc Ock

use basedit

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