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I couldn't find anything...could you provide a link, or is it a lot of little changes to a different sections?

EDIT: I found your changes by looking in the "Recent Changes" section.
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New article: "VIC-1020 expansion chassis" started.

http://sleepingelephant.com/denial/wiki ... on_chassis
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I just dumped a whole lot of stuff on keywords in the BASIC section. Eventually I might group each keyword or keyword set in a separate page and only have a index on the BASIC page.

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It might take me a few weeks work to get all the Keywords with examples and explanations and then I plan to put them on separate pages. For grouping some keywords are grouped naturally like FOR TO STEP NEXT. Others might be grouped because of similar function like COS SIN TAN ATN.

http://sleepingelephant.com/denial/wiki ... title=BASI
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I just added information concerning the VIC's memory expanders and slot expanders.

I also added technical information to the VIC-1110's section.

Concerning the peripherals in general, I request that a disk/tape accelerator section be added.

In this section, I think we should list JiffyDOS, Easyload+, the Rabbit tape accelerator, Compute's Gazette' turbo tape and turbo disk.

I know there are other accelerators created by sceners, such as Pu-239 that should be mentioned in there.
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eslapion wrote:Concerning the peripherals in general, I request that a disk/tape accelerator section be added.

In this section, I think we should list JiffyDOS, Easyload+, the Rabbit tape accelerator, Compute's Gazette' turbo tape and turbo disk.

I know there are other accelerators created by sceners, such as Pu-239 that should be mentioned in there.
Thanks for your contribution. Feel free, Eslapion, to add any peripherals, or perhiperal setions, you want to the periphals article. That list was not meant to be a complete, but was just made up from what I could think of at the time. As the Denial Wiki is an open resource, anyone is free to make changes or contribute.
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ral-clan wrote:Feel free, Eslapion, to add any peripherals, or perhiperal setions, you want to the periphals article.
I was asking because... I don't quite know how to do that. I was also looking for other people's input.

I also noticed the front cover page of the "friendly computer guide" is plagued by a revolting moiré pattern. Just looking at it makes me feel like I'm standing right next to a chalk board scratched by half a dozen sharp nails. Obviously the person who scanned that forgot to turn on descreening.

I tried uploading a new version but all it did is make the old one display much larger...

added edit:
The cover image problem seems fixed.

The content of the memory map is completely untrue.
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eslapion wrote:The content of the memory map is completely untrue.
While not completely untrue, there were some slight errors regarding the BLK numbering scheme. I also added some information which memory actually is present in an unexpanded stock VIC-20.

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Mike wrote:While not completely untrue, there were some slight errors regarding the BLK numbering scheme. I also added some information which memory actually is present in an unexpanded stock VIC-20.

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I just found:

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$9BF0 CAT Controller / data register
$9BFC Mode Register
     Bit 0: Character set. 0 - upper case, 1 - lower case
     Bit 5: 40/80 Columns. 0 - 40 Columns, 1 - 80 Columns
$9FB0-$A7FF - BIOS ROM
$B800 - $BFFF - Video RAM
There is no BIOS ROM at $9fB0, there is no video RAM at $B800 - $BFFF and there is certainly no mode register at $9BFC that would allow for some "hidden" 40 or 80 columns mode...

It may be true for some 40/80 columns adapter but this is presented as the original VIC-20's memory map...

See: http://sleepingelephant.com/denial/wiki ... #Technical

Some change is needed there for sure.

Added edit:
I was not referring to this one:
http://sleepingelephant.com/denial/wiki ... Memory_Map

This memory map seems perfectly okay.

Added edit 2:
The technical section in the main page appears incapable of properly text wrapping when there is more than one line of information for a specific item.
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eslapion wrote: This memory map seems perfectly okay.
Apart from that that error in section "16 KB ROM Areas in Blocks 6, and 7". Fixed 8)
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I added one of the first VIC-20 revision C power supply. Strangely, it wasn't in the list of VIC-20 PSUs.

This one is specifically reputed to destroy C64s. Its the only one in the list to have less than 9VA on the 9Vac output, it is rated for 2.5VA.

However, I know for a fact there are other VIC-20 rev C Commodore made PSUs that are rated for even less than that.
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The Denial Wiki article is certainly THE most comprehensive place on the internet for information on VIC-20 power supplies now. I look forward to when most of our articles are of this quality. It may seem pendantic and obsessive to document tiny details of the VIC-20 like this, but that's what Denial and the Denial Wiki are all about! :D

http://sleepingelephant.com/denial/wiki ... r_Supplies
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I've improved the BASIC section somewhat. Hopefully I will continue to improve it over time. If anyone has any ideas for the topics to be covered in the BASIC section please comment.

http://sleepingelephant.com/denial/wiki ... itle=BASIC
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Richard James wrote:I've improved the BASIC section somewhat. Hopefully I will continue to improve it over time. If anyone has any ideas for the topics to be covered in the BASIC section please comment.

http://sleepingelephant.com/denial/wiki ... itle=BASIC
Great additions! I think it's important that the BASIC article be both a technical resource, and a historical one. I see there is already some mention about the development of this BASIC by Microsoft, that's good. Maybe it would be nice to add that Commodore had a lifelong lisence to use V2 of MicroSoft's BASIC without paying royalties - hence its inclusion on so many Commodore 8-bits even when it was fairly outdated.
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New article - Cassette tapes

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New article: "Cassette tapes" started.

http://sleepingelephant.com/denial/wiki ... ette_Tapes
vic20tapes.org - preservation of vic20 tapes.
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I'm a bit confused about the history of Micro-Soft BASIC. Ah on Wikipedia it lists BASIC as used in the Commodore computers as Commodore BASIC.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodore_BASIC
I'll add that link to the Denial Wiki.

Is there any evidence of the 2.0 licence?
Found a reference from the Talk page on Wikipedia
http://www.commodore.ca/history/people/ ... peddle.htm
In the section "THE BIGGEST DEAL IN COMPUTER HISTORY" they talk about Microsoft granting an unlimited licence for any Commodore 6502 based computer.
Added that information to the Denial Wiki.
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