There is a nice article about the C64 here. Does anything like this exist for the VIC20?
6502 6510
I'll try to translate/interpret this.
This thread is not the entry point for error diagnosis, and the following assumptions are made:
1. You already checked if any ICs are too hot to touch
2. You checked your power supply, and it is working
3. You already tested all your socketed chips in a working board
For measurements in 8-bit computers with a frequency less than 10mhz, the following settings are recommended:
o Vertical 2v, so that 5v is visible over 2.5 squares. NMOS normally reaches 4v HIGH
o Horizontal 100ns, so that you have a resolution over about 5 squares for HIGH and LOW. You can see CLK-IN disturbances well.
o Triggering on the falling side in the middle of the screen. Here the CLK-IN cycle is on the left side and the VIC-I cycle on the right side.
o Using a 2 channel oscilloscope you can see the measurements in relation to the CLK-IN.
Measuring points on the VIC20 with an ocilloscope
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Re: Measuring points on the VIC20 with an ocilloscope
1st we verify if a reset signal is obtained. This is on PIN40 of the 6502, and must be LOW/0V when turned off and HIGH/4-5V after a short time of turning on, and stay there. If this does not happen, then the possible culprits are UB6-LM555 and UB4-7406 and other components around the RESET logic.
Reset schematic here (top left)
Next check, does the VIC-I get the needed frequencies.Datasheet
Does the VIC-I get it's frequencies?
o Master Oscillator Clock PIN38 & PIN39 require 5v, non overlapping 4.437187mhz-PAL/14.31818mhz-NTSC (Clock-in phase-1 & 2)
o System Clocks PIN35 5v, non overlapping 1.02mhz clocks (Clock-out phase-1)
Reset schematic here (top left)
Next check, does the VIC-I get the needed frequencies.Datasheet
Does the VIC-I get it's frequencies?
o Master Oscillator Clock PIN38 & PIN39 require 5v, non overlapping 4.437187mhz-PAL/14.31818mhz-NTSC (Clock-in phase-1 & 2)
o System Clocks PIN35 5v, non overlapping 1.02mhz clocks (Clock-out phase-1)
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Re: Measuring points on the VIC20 with an ocilloscope
The SAMS Computerfacts CC3 exists in 3 different version for the VIC-20.
Look here: https://www.c64-wiki.com/index.php/SAMS
There is a very large scanned sheet in there with a number of test points for values to look up on a multimeter and a number of waveforms to expect on an oscilloscope.
IMHO, Very useful.
Added edit: Ouch! I thought the PDF would be easy to grab and download... doesn't look like it!
Look here: https://www.c64-wiki.com/index.php/SAMS
There is a very large scanned sheet in there with a number of test points for values to look up on a multimeter and a number of waveforms to expect on an oscilloscope.
IMHO, Very useful.
Added edit: Ouch! I thought the PDF would be easy to grab and download... doesn't look like it!
Be normal.
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