Chess

Mikam73 · Post by **Mikam73** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 5:08 am

http://www.atariage.com/forums/index.ph ... opic=11002

This is intresting..

I wonder how good Sargon II Chess game really is..

vic user · Post by **vic user** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 5:40 am

i have done this with a few of my chess programs i have, but i have not had them play against sargon ii.

main reason is that i have them set for the highest skill level, and sargon ii would take close to an eternity to complete a game at its highest level.

chris

Boray · Post by **Boray** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 6:06 am

I tried to let SargonII and Boss to play against eachother once, but even at a lower level I thought it took too long so I quit....

vic user · Post by **vic user** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 6:30 am

i have been tempted to just let them play at the lowest setting, but maybe have them all set to one higher than absolute beginner or their equivalent?

chris

carlsson · Post by **carlsson** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 11:26 am

The Sargon series bragged about how superior they were - not only Sargon II on the VIC-20 but also Sargon III. To my knowledge, there are four traditional chess programs for the VIC:

Sargon II (cartridge), The Boss (+3K IIRC), Grandmaster (+8K) and Vic Chess (+8K).

Many years ago I played Grandmaster on the VIC-20 vs Grandmaster on the C64, at the same skill level of course. As far as I remember, they were equal, not surprising as the algorithm and hardware is close to identical.

In COMPUTE! there was a rather small chess program that I planned to convert into C and run on a modern computer, but I never got that far. The article mentioned alpha-beta pruning and various other techniques, but the program itself had a major flaw; its user interface would not be able to tell if the opponent (human) made an incorrect move or not. You could move any piece anywhere and the computer would accept it and try to find a valid countermove.

Schema · Post by **Schema** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 11:55 am

You could use VICE in Warp mode...

vic user · Post by **vic user** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 12:05 pm

what a great use for emulation!

chris

Mikam73 · Post by **Mikam73** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 12:58 pm

http://wondersmith.com/rants/howfar.htm

vic user · Post by **vic user** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 1:08 pm

good read, thanks for the link!

chris

Mikam73 · Post by **Mikam73** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 1:30 pm

You are welcome..

Schlowski · Post by **Schlowski** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 1:58 pm

Great link, very interesting to read!

Björg

Mikam73 · Post by **Mikam73** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 2:18 pm

You are welcome too..

Does anyone else want to be welcome..

Well.. I like that text too, its quite old. I saw it years ago. I am intrested how well vic can really play.. atleast it wins me..

Mikam73 · Post by **Mikam73** » Wed Jan 25, 2006 12:17 am

Have you guys tryed other Vic20 chess games? There was atleast one chess on tape version or is Sargon II Chess best Vic20 chess?

If those two would play.. Would Sargon win...

Boray · Post by **Boray** » Wed Jan 25, 2006 5:57 am

carlsson wrote:To my knowledge, there are four traditional chess programs for the VIC:

Sargon II (cartridge), The Boss (+3K IIRC), Grandmaster (+8K) and Vic Chess (+8K).

Boss Exe (8k). I even have a photocopy of the instructinos...

Mikam73 · Post by **Mikam73** » Wed Jan 25, 2006 6:01 am

We could have Vic20 chess tournament..

I bet on Sargon II Chess, that I have (atleast) 4 copys.. Our team will wipe out all chess tapes..