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Vic 2000
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When Vic-20 was a new and exciting computer there was a lot of clones of the big sellers at that time. Frogger, Donkey Kong, Pac-Man, Galaxians, Centipede etc. When you browse your Vic-20 collection you will find many clones of the same game.

Which of them are the best?

If you are about to post your personal opinion.

BEST VERSION OF

01.Centipede
02.Donkey Kong
03.Frogger
04.Space Invaders
05.Pac-Man
06.Scramble
07.3D Shooter
08.Snake
09.Moon Patrol
10.Berzerk
11.Outlaw
12.Galaxian
13.Asteroids
14.Arcade Shooter
15.Platform
16.Simulator
17.Puzzle Game
18.Demo
19.Best Jeff Minter Game
20.Best RPG/Adventure?
21.Best unique game idea

MY PERSONAL CHOICES

01.Night Crawler (rabbit)
02.Donkey Kong (atarisoft)
03.Princess and Frog (romox)
04.Invaders (livewire)
05.Panicman/Quikman (bills442/robert hurst)
06.Skramble (terminal software)
07.Buck Rodgers (sega)
08.Snake Pit (postern)
09.Moon Patrol (atarisoft)
10.Amok (umi)
11.Gunslinger (anirog)
12.Galaxian (atarisoft)
13.Moons of Jupiter (romik)
14.Myriad (rabbit)
15.Loderunner (broderbund)
16.Submarine Commander (thorn emi)
17.Vic Column (cosine)
18.Bad Scene Poetry (cosine)
19.Lazer Zone (llamasoft)
20.Ultima: Escape From Mount Drash (sierra)
21.Snake Pit (postern)
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What do you mean? The Vic-20 computer is still new and exciting :wink:
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Not Atarisoft titles, but licensed arcade clones: Omega Race and Sea Wolf

IMO, Shamus and Berzerk-MMX are good candidates for replacement of #10 - Amok! (and Super Amok!)
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joshuadenmark wrote:What do you mean? The Vic-20 computer is still new and exciting :wink:
I would put it like this?

Vic-20 isn't new...that's why Vic-20 is exciting. ;)

(at least for a retrobuff like me) :)
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rhurst wrote:Not Atarisoft titles, but licensed arcade clones: Omega Race and Sea Wolf

IMO, Shamus and Berzerk-MMX are good candidates for replacement of #10 - Amok! (and Super Amok!)
Shamus is a good game for both C64, Atari 800 and Vic 20, but more an good action game than a straight copy of Berzerk?

I like Amok so much because it's one of the best straight copies of Bezerk that i have ever tried. The control, the graphics and the layout is spot on. Both Omega Race and Sea Wolf is very competent games too i admit. :)

MS Pac-Man from Atarisoft could have been up on the list there too, even if it's a bit blocky.
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Vic 2000 wrote:
joshuadenmark wrote:What do you mean? The Vic-20 computer is still new and exciting :wink:
I would put it like this?

Vic-20 isn't new...that's why Vic-20 is exciting. ;)

(at least for a retrobuff like me) :)
Newish? :wink:
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When i was younger i was a real techno freak. I bought just about every new console and computer...already looking forward to the next new big thing. I remember my very first games, the horrible loading times when the games was on tape. Then came the 16 bit computers and i was suddenly dealing with more things then just games. I was into midi, DTP, graphic editing and much more.

Then came the 32 bit consoles and i was among the first in Sweden to buy a brand new Playstation. Then it was Sega Saturn and...my last game console, Nintendo 64.

When XBOX end PS2 arrived i was kind of tired of the new games, it was all about polygons and follow up after follow up were released. The big genre of games i bought for my earlier computers was kind of gone, it was all about making money from now on. The games lost their humanity and there was only cold sterile lightshaded computerized polygons left.

All developers used the same hard and software to created the new games and nobody dared to try something new anymore. The making of cars went the same way and all cars was looking similar to each other.

NHL 2017 anyone?
Perhaps FIFA 2028?

Then i realised how much fun i had in the happy 8bit and 16bit era of gaming. And that's why "old" and "retro" is a positive word for me these days. ;) :)

Todays PC isn't really a computer, it's a multimedia machine used for just about everything and most households of today use their PC as anything else in the household, a toaster, a micro owen or a mobile.
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Vic 2000 wrote:Which of them are the best?

BEST VERSION OF

01.Centipede
02.Donkey Kong
03.Frogger
04.Space Invaders
05.Pac-Man
06.Scramble
07.3D Shooter
08.Snake
09.Moon Patrol
10.Berzerk
11.Outlaw
12.Galaxian
13.Asteroids
14.Arcade Shooter
15.Platform
16.Simulator
17.Puzzle Game
18.Demo
19.Best Jeff Minter Game
20.Best RPG/Adventure?
21.Best unique game idea
MY PERSONAL CHOICES (red: differs from Vic 2000's choice)

01.Gridrunner (Llamasoft)
02.Donkey Kong (Atarisoft)
03.Frogger '07 (Victragic)
04.VIC Avenger (Commodore)
05.Panicman (Bills442) sorry, Robert :mrgreen:
06.Skramble (Terminal Software)
07.Doom (Kweepa)
08.Snake Pit (Postern)
09.Moon Patrol (Atarisoft)
10.Berzerk-MMX (Rhurst)
11.Gunslinger (Anirog)
12.Star Battle (Commodore)
13.Moons of Jupiter (Romik)
14.Gorf (Commodore)
15.VICfall (Victragic)
16.Submarine Commander (Thorn Emi)
17.Ten Ten (Jeff)
18.Yes VIC can (Tokra)
19.Traxx (Llamasoft)
20.Realms of Quest III (Ghislain)
21.Game Theory 1/2 (Jeff)

Many games would deserve extra-mentions, both old (Omega Race, Radar Rat Race, Battlezone, and MANY more) and new (Return to Fort Knox, Blue Star, YOHO Z Machine interpreter, why not VICtoria Gold, Pulse, Pooyan, Cometfall, Theater(s) of War and MANY more), so I wonder if these "best of the best" list have any significance at all :).
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Thank you for posting your personal favourites. :)

Then i can notice how your list differs from my own and give your choices for best games an extra playtest. At least we shared some of the games on the list. :)
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05.Panicman (Bills442) sorry, Robert :mrgreen:
I always had a softspot for Jelly monsters [being my first ever vic cartridge] and still think it holds its own against recent offerings.
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best arcade shooter for me would be Myriad by Rabbit
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beamrider wrote:
05.Panicman (Bills442) sorry, Robert :mrgreen:
I always had a softspot for Jelly monsters [being my first ever vic cartridge] and still think it holds its own against recent offerings.
Me too. Jelly Monsters is my favorite Pac Man.
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beamrider wrote:best arcade shooter for me would be Myriad by Rabbit
Agree, Myriad is fun to play and packed with action. Myriad has that magic touch that many games misses.
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Jelly Monsters was one of my first games too in the 80's. Jelly Monsters is still a good game, up there with the best. ;)
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Gorf is easier (slower) than Myriad, so I put it as a top arcade shooter.:)
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