VIC 20 Reloaded Motherboard ?

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Re: VIC 20 Reloaded Motherboard ?

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@Groepaz
This is not FUD : https://www.fairchildsemi.com/applicati ... AN-368.pdf

Mr. Schönfeld should use HCT logic chips ONLY on his C64r and it would be an incredibly easy thing to do. It changes nothing to the cost of his components. I can think of only one reason why he wouldn't correct the situation but I won't mention it because I want to stay polite.

I am not the only one to have warned him of this problem.

Unlike the falsehoods you threw for years at the ST PROM PLA solution, I clearly described the problem AND suggested an easy and perfectly free solution.
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As long as you guys here can politely agree to disagree here, then we'll keep the thread open. If not... well, there's the inevitable.
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and there comes more FUD. combined with vague claims and untenable accusations as usual, of course. and dont forget links to documents that you might have read, but certainly not fully understood. and then inevitable PLA whining. sorry, the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E ... ger_effect that is so strong in you forbids me to discuss any more technical issues with you.

since jens runs a company and is selling that board as a commercial product, anyone who would see "electrical issues" with it should simply contact him and get it replaced/fixed, it's that simple really.
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and there comes more FUD. combined with vague claims and untenable accusations as usual
The difference between you and me is I try to provide accurate information that renders service to ALL the community, even you and Mr. Schönfeld. Knowing the issue with using HC chips with Commodore ICs is a freely available and graciously provided opportunity to improve the quality of his products which he balked at.

Considering what you said about my own solutions related to PLAs I think it is in your best interest to re-examine the things you've posted in the past. Vague claims? Untenable accusations?
... sorry, the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E ... ger_effect that is so strong ...
My scope, the 500MHz logic analyser lent to me by Mr. Brisebois and my digital multimeter don't suffer the "Kruger effect".

In answer to technical facts and official application notes from circuit manufacturers, your reaction is to diagnose me with a psychiatric condition.

As a person with Asperger's syndrome, I am followed by a psychiatrist. Something like the "kruger effect" was never mentioned.
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and even more FUD, vague claims, untenable accusations ... repeating the same over and over doesnt prove your point in any way, trust me. jens certainly doesnt need any of your so called "information" to improve his products. again: if there is a problem with your C64R board, contact jens and get it fixed.
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Annnnnnnnd... exit stage left...
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